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Garcia Get paid in advance. They are terrible business people ππ€ππ½10
Elaine Β» Garcia They love a good set of ts&cs so yes, make sure all the fees and obligations to them and them to you, are water tight. I worked in law for 20 years and 10 years ago pivoted to legal marketing specialising in Search Engine Optimization (SEO) – so know their drive well. Good luck!
Nick Why does it matter if they are a lawyer or not. Your rate is your rate. Don't be a dick. πππ½8
Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Nick I cant send the same proposal to a lawyer vs roofer or movers. competitiveness is taken into consideration. π€ππ½2 Nick Β» Rienzi Mosqueda Absolutely you can. You're thinking the wrong way. This way, you will never make money. You will fail. I charge $XXX regardless of who you are. I also make 6 figures a month. But hey, I don't know what I'm talking about right. π€2 Kathy Β» Rienzi Mosqueda My attorney client's competitor is spending $25,000/mo on SEO. You can't convince me that what you do for a roofer is going to work the same for a personal injury attorney. Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Kathy That's what I said. Hmmm Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Nick That's good for you! Do you work with a lawyer now? Kathy Β» Rienzi Mosqueda Exactly. You are right. Nick Β» Rienzi Mosqueda Multiple Nick Β» Kathy You don't get it. Your price is your price. You should be charging the same amount per hour as you do for any job. Regardless of who it's for. I'll charge a crack head the same hourly rate as a lawyer. And they will pay. Some take minutes and some take months. All depends on what you're doing. But my hourly rate is exactly the same for everyone. π1 Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Nick We get that. But you seem to be missing the point mr.6 figures. But thanks for the insight. Nick Β» Rienzi Mosqueda GIF Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Nick Haha hey really I appreciate the insight. Caleb Β» Rienzi Mosqueda I do wonder how it's ethical to charge different clients different rates purely based on their income. I do tend to agree with Nick that you should have a universal pricing structure. You may have higher tiers of pricing, but how can U justify charging a person more just cause they earn more? Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Caleb Thanks for asking. – we should charge base on the X amount of work to achieve X results. – there are different ways of charging/pricing – there's hourly, ROI based & there's value-based. – universal pricing is something we do, every preneur knows this. But not all client knows the best budget for the marketing efforts. Nothing in my post says charging more base on income. I just want to get the range. ππ½π3
Brent What you should be looking at is what Budget on average is required to get the results your client is expecting and whether the expectations are set correctly. Pricing based on a quick cash grab is a mistake a lot of beginning SEO users make, though that is my opinion. Look at what is required for the client to book results, as well as your personal rate as well. Also about the above, I believe there are a lot of roofers out earning law firms lol, I might be wrong on that one but most roofers do quite well and are actually quite rehearsed in the marketing world. Your proposal however shouldn't necessarily be depending on the niche, more on the need of the client. πππ½3
Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Brent Thanks! your first sentence is what I'm trying to get. Brent Β» Rienzi That is mainly something your research should tell you man. But, if you got some data to go over, I am happy to go over it with you?
Robert What works for me: compare how much the traffic would cost if they would have to generate it through other means, assuming conversion is more or less similar⦠"Accident lawyer" used to have a Cost-per-click (CPC) of $80++, so if you'll get him 100 visitors per month, that should be worth at least $8k / month ⦠And probably more because organic traffic stays, while Google ads traffic just disappears when you turn it off. Other variables to take into consideration: how much do you normally charge, how good are you and how much are they willing to pay? It's not weird to ask for their budget + expectations, so you can better align your fees with what they are expecting and willing to pay. Sadly, if you don't charge enough, they may think your services are not as good, this is just simple price psychology. People generally assume higher priced items are higher quality, same goes for consultants, in my humble opinion. Good luck!
Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Robert Paul Totally agree. I don't want to charge less to look like I don't know what I'm doing but not too much that I'm robbing people. I'm still in the business of helping. Appreciate the advice! π1 Dirk Β» Robert Great way to gage it! π1
Joachim Damnβ¦ As a lawyer, I'm truly surprised to see that (1) we have such a bad rep and (2) people charge higher because of the job we do. Imagine if I did the same and charged firms differently depending on their field β¦
Jonathan Β» Joachim The amount lawyers charge is because the job you doβ¦ what's the difference? π Joachim Β» Jonathan Well that's not how I do stuff. Same work = same price for everyone. Jonathan Β» Joachim But your industry charges in general per hour significantly more than most industriesβ¦. Why? Based on your logic the industry shouldn't charge more than others too? Also just because it's a family dispute or a murder trail.. the cost should be the same too? Your logic doesn't appear to match your industry, nor any other in my view. Joachim Β» Jonathan I have a rate per hour that due to my specialization and the difficulty of making it. Maybe my logic applies coz I only do B2B. And no, family dispute and murder should not be the same, there is a whole other type of shit storm if you make a mistake. Responsibility is the main reason for the high cost after specialization. I do make more from one client to another but that's only when I charge in percentage. My logic is that one service provider should have a price for a service he provides. A service being a specific skill and a specific responsibility. Which is why a neurosurgeon makes more than a physician. You said that based on my logic, I shouldn't be more expensive than others, just to be clear, I never said all service providers should be at the same price. I charge 250 EUR per hour because I only do R&D law. If I did family dispute, I'd probably be half that price. Anyhow, my initial comment was a surprise as to how bad lawyers are perceived (in this group at least). Kathy Β» Joachim No one is saying that. Some got confused thinking Rienzi was asking about rates. He was asking about a retainer and there really is no way to answer that. A PI attorney in Dallas will require a lot more work than a PI attorney in Butte, for example, because of the competition. That attorney in Dallas may require 40 man hours a month, the other only 5. No one is upping rates because they think someone can afford to pay more, at least I hope not.
Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ This is very useful, Richelle! Appreciate it. I'm definitely looking forward to giving them a fair proposal. Joachim Finally an answer that makes sense. I'm launching my firm with my two partners. I made the website but for the content I tried to find cheap writers initially (being a lawyer doesn't mean being rich in France, compared to the US). Giving the bullet point content, I thought I could make it work. But we ended up writing everything as we realized the quality of the articles meant a price much higher. Which we understood completely. So yeah, I'd say the one reason to charge attorneys more is because the expectation is often higher. Rienzi Mosqueda βοΈπ Β» Richelle This is a very similar case with insurance. We had to drop all sentimental entities in titles and the way of constructing the content is very formal and info-focused only.
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