Lieven
Who can solve this enigma?
My competitor does strange things I don’t understand.
He is always first in Google 2 times!!!
He came out of jail for selling illegal substances so how can this guy be more EAT than the 50 big biotech corporations that employ each 10 000 employs in Life Science? He works from his garage!
Here my observation.
He bought a Trust Flow (TF)15 zero-robotics org domain 301 redirected half of the pages to his site and the other half to Google!!! or a Google sub-page. I click on that Google sub-page in Majestic and Google will tell me: Google detected unusual traffic from your computer.???? what is happening here?
check the whois on his site, he's probably redirected the urls to a Google site – like his Google site and from within those linked to his money site via a 301 pathway or to a citation platform/s. that's what I can make from what you are saying.👍1
✍️ or just to his Google domain results.
Strauss
yeah they change though the listing now won't have the same URL as the listing in 10 minutes. he could be linking to a Google doc that is public and has the site urls listed in the doc? like follow the Google link and see where it goes. it would be funny if he somehow set up user agent detection so that you are served something different from Googlebot. also, if yes really keen he could be serving majestic a completely different experience to you, and Googlebot.🤯1
Lieven
✍️ https://www.Google.com/sorry/index?continue=https://Google.com/&q=EhAqAQT5AComxQAAAAAAAAACGObjs-4FIhkA8aeDS09m 6gF3K0kYJMVCGM3W4KP7x_TPMgFy.
Google.COM.
https://Google.com/
https://Google.com/
Lieven
✍️ this is the link they redirect too and also just Google com and also their website. Can you see anything in this link?
Costa
What is a Google sub-page? Is he using a Google site property?( An ugly html site that often shows up in local map pack rankings).
If so, then he's using the RYS tactics created and taught by Semantic Mastery, or similar ones.
It's basically a way to use authority from Google stacked properties to rank, and also protect your domain from whatever spammy linkbuilding one tends to do.
Google cannot possibly know he was in jail, so you should at least get that out of equation.👍🤭💗9
✍️ yes but a corporation with 10 000 employees get and send billions of emails on their domain. Google should take mail exchanger record (MX record) in the equation. I must say I am openly disjointed in Google or maybe this is not possible to measure the number of emails go through a domain.
Costa » Lieven
emails are not a factor because of privacy. As long as emails are non indexable for the purpose of providing search visitors an answer to their queries, no amount of emails exchanged would add any benefits whatsoever.
Think of it this way, if your theory was accurate ,then a pro email spammer could use the massive amount of emails sent from his domain to be repurposed for SEO tactics.
But that isn't possible because then there would be ESP companies creating special priced plans solely for that purpose. Google's ranking algorithms cannot tell between a legitimate email and one that is spun or full of spam, because it doesn't have to- it's a violation of privacy laws.💗1
Lieven ✍️ » Costa
but in a big corporation all these emails go to different imac addresses of the 10 000 employees? Google could see that.
Costa » Lieven
, they can and do see that, but it's not a ranking factor because anyone with a lot of virtual credit cards to set up multiple AWS cloud accounts could replicate that same effect.
Now, if 10k employees all listed the company's profile link onto their own social media like LinkedIn, and then also shared high traffic posts from that company, that would be different. That would be a way of satisfying the E-A-T criteria.
Lieven
✍️ So Google cant impossibly see the difference between a cheap garage or 200 big corporate buildings sharing one email domain MX record on 100 000 different device imac addresses? That's good news!
Costa » Lieven
here's another example: let's say a university's entire student capacity uses Google Drive to store their notes, but they do not set in to "public" settings, can Google see it?
Yes. But they won't index it to show in SERPs.
Does Google use that as a factor to attribute more credibility to that university to outrank their competitors?
No. Because of privacy, and because it's not in the SERPs, it means that it serves no purpose and brings zero value to search visitors.
Lieven ✍️ » Costa
privacy in this year?
Ryan
I saw a domain that was using GSuite and sending e-mail SPAM get an algorithmic penalty where it wasn't even showing for it's own brand on page 1. It could be a random correlation but the timing lined up perfectly. It did, however, recover.👍1
Lieven ✍️ » Ryan
my programmers follow Google guidelines like Google where god and put my whole PBN on GSuite hoping Google would be grateful for the openness.
Ryan
Well, you gotta make a PBN like a real site these days so I guess that makes sense if you actually need mail service and not just forwarding.
Lieven
✍️ So Google cant impossibly see the difference between a cheap garage or 200 big corporate buildings sharing one email domain MX record on 100 000 different devices imac addresses? That's good news!?
He's using a strongly powered up Google entity stack. To both rank and power up his site too. This technique isn't new, but most SEOs don't know how to use it right. Currently my friend and I are about running tests to see how fast we can rank G sites and power up other properties.
Ive seen Gsites rank #3 just below yelp and Angie's list for a keyword with SEO difficulty of 34 and search volume of 1300 in DC.👍2
Khan
If you want to outrank him, you need to perform things your competitor has done. Build same links, get similar redirection and most importantly go to jail. I hope you'll outrank him.🤭👍19
i don't think he can out rank to just go one time jail first he need to figure out how many times his competitor goes to jail than he need to go one more time to jail than his competitor as all of you know Google only give you opportunity when you do something better than your competitors.😎.👍🤭5
Eral
the man just got out of jail.. let him rank 🤣.👍🤭8
and beating 50 big corporations, that's a great revenge. Sorry being jealous. Maybe he was in jail with a great SEO guy.
Josiah » Lieven
ever thought about hiring him?
Lieven ✍️ » Josiah
after 5 years first he moved 2 times to bigger garages. He doesn't know anything about SEO just hired a good Chinese consultant. I scanned all whois to find a trace. Still didn't find. If its you please pm me.
Kennan
These constant posts are just idiotic. F*ck what the competition is doing. F*ck how they are gaming Google. If they truly don't have better content and they are manipulating Google then understand that their gains will most likely be temporary.👍2
they are going down since 8 November in favor of white hat. However being first with 2 listing in page 1 for 5 years was impressive.
Kennan » Lieven
it is cause it was a super low competition niche most likely where the competitors all sucked at SEO.
Lieven ✍️ » Kennan
yes all big concerns lack SEO and sell off their PBNs a wrong decision. They should better buy all domains and keep them.
Kennan
You are wasting all this time trying to analyze how another person has traction while also saying they aren't worthy of that traction. Instead of sitting there in paralysis by analysis trying to find the quick fix how about you just do shit properly. Kill all the shit thin content sites. Perform proper redirects. Assess mobile site performance. Assess site speed. Improve on-page. Add content.👍1
all Google guidelines make no sense if nonsence dominates the Serps.
Kennan » Lieven
And build some backlinks!
There is a happy medium between adhering to Google's guidelines and also doing stuff that is effective. Truly bad ass SEOs want to do the most effective technical SEO with the prettiest sexiest looking white hat wrapper on the outside. Technical manipulations are a short term strategy… whether short term is 6 months or 5 years… those guys had 5 years to make themselves look sexy and they didn't. Shame on them.
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And that's why I suggested literally just choosing a page and modifying it and seeing how easy it is to beat the competition. Once you do it one time you may even have a replicable formula. You may even be able to automate a lot of it… but looking at hosting and a million site redirects is not gonna be your magic bullet lol.👍1
Lieven ✍️ » Kennan
my bow is mobile first, much faster (elastic) has way more content than his bullet. But you cant win against a bullet.
Kennan » Lieven
you didn't pm me a term and a url on your site… that represents a lot of value…
Lieven ✍️ » Kennan
genprice.com.
Genprice | Biotech Supplier | Elisa & Pcr Kits | Antibodies & Rec Proteins.
Kennan
Short term gains make sense with limited resources to get started OR completely low competition markets. When you enjoyed all that traction is when you should have spent resources actually doing things the right way not waiting for Google to torch you and for you then to go into emergency mode looking for the same type of quick fix that eventually led to this demise in this first place.
they are first since 2011. That's 8 years of income.
Kennan » Lieven
who cares? Stop modeling them. Be better than them. It isn't some magic bullet. They probably have someone who knows what they are doing advising them.
Lieven ✍️ » Kennan
I am very jealous, and no I wont transmit them to Google as many suggest. I want to do the same or better.
Kennan » Lieven
transmit? You mean report them?
Aside from that, Why on earth would you want to do "the same" as them if they have shit content and are a shit brand? Lol how does that make sense to you?
Lieven ✍️ » Kennan
How to make on 10 000 000 pages meaningful content? I look like a native American fighting settlers with bow and arrow. No matter how well made my bow content is, the tiny drunk guy with the bullets always wins.
Kennan » Lieven
I never said not to use bullets. I'd be dropping bad ass links all over my site if I were you… while I also fixed all my content and truly justify why my site should be murdering the competition. You seem more focused on complaining than actually getting to work though.
Lieven ✍️ » Kennan
I manufacture my products, manufacture my tech sheets, pay salaries and have my own labs to analyze my items, published it. I was 20 years the first in Google to see today a garage copying my items is first and I disappear from Google except using my brand name.
The guy in the garage does scholarships for disabled in economics, 301 redirect to Google stack. Bot traffic. How ethical is that?
Kennan » Lieven
who gives a shit? Lol stop complaining. Do something.
Lieven ✍️ » Kennan
Google for sure doesn't complain being for "privacy reasons" not able to detect international corporations that pay tons to Adds.
Kennan » Lieven
… you know what you do when others are spending money and outperforming you?
You SPEND money lol.